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Зачем администратору давать права на просмотр ВСЕХ проектов?

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Boiler Опубликовал: 09-11-2007 ч:мм вв

Вопрос к разработчикам: моё понимание "Администратор" - управление доступом к системе пользователям.

Прекрасно понимаю, что толковый администратор сможет и сам себе роль назначить и увидеть. Но зачем по умолчанию давать доступ на все? 

Мало того, я видел реализацию, где Администратор не мог менять себе сам Роли\доступы, а мог делать это только другому администратору. 

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В нашей системе принадлежность к роли"Администратор" не дает права на просмотр проектов. Такое право дает принадлежность к роли "Руководители".

Однако, Администратор, видит все те проекты, куда его пригласили в качестве участника, исполнительного менеджера, спонсора или заинтересованного лица.

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Boiler:

Вопрос к разработчикам: моё понимание "Администратор" - управление доступом к системе пользователям.

Прекрасно понимаю, что толковый администратор сможет и сам себе роль назначить и увидеть. Но зачем по умолчанию давать доступ на все? 

Мало того, я видел реализацию, где Администратор не мог менять себе сам Роли\доступы, а мог делать это только другому администратору. 

Вот схема Security, используемая в IBN 4.5. Из неё видно, что  роль Администратор не даёт право на просмотр (Read) проектов.

·         Project

o        Create

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Project Manager (global secure role)

o        Update

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Project

o        Delete

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Project

o        Read

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Executive Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Project

§         Executive Manager of the Project

§         Sponsor of the Project

§         Stakeholder of the Project

§         TeamMember of the Project

o        View Finances

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Executive Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Project

§         Executive Manager of the Project

o        Edit Finances

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Project

§         Executive Manager of the Project

·         Calendar Entry

o        Create

§         Any user

o        Update

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Calendar Entry

§         Manager of the Project (if Calendar Entry belongs to Project)

o        Delete

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Calendar Entry

§         Manager of the Project (if Calendar Entry belongs to Project)

o        Read

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Executive Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Calendar Entry

§         Resource of the Calendar Entry

§         Manager of the Project (if Calendar Entry belongs to Project)

§         Executive Manager of the Project (if Calendar Entry belongs to Project)

§         Sponsor of the Project (if Calendar Entry belongs to Project)

§         Stakeholder of the Project (if Calendar Entry belongs to Project)

§         TeamMember of the Project (if Calendar Entry belongs to Project)

o        Finances (only if Calendar Entry belongs to Project)

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Executive Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Project

§         Manager of the Calendar Entry

·         Document

o        Create

§         Any user (if Document doesn’t belong to Project)

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Project (if Document belongs to Project)

o        Update

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Document

§         Resource of the Document (who is marked as Manager)

§         Manager of the Project (if Document belongs to Project)

o        Delete

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Document

§         Resource of the Document (who is marked as Manager)

§         Manager of the Project (if Document belongs to Project)

o        Update Status

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Document

§         Manager of the Project (if Document belongs to Project)

§         Resource of the Document

o        Add new Version (in Active or Overdue state)

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Document

§         Manager of the Project (if Document belongs to Project)

§         Resource of the Document

o        Read

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Executive Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Document

§         Resource of the Document

§         Manager of the Project (if Document belongs to Project)

§         Executive Manager of the Project (if Document belongs to Project)

§         Sponsor of the Project (if Document belongs to Project)

§         Stakeholder of the Project (if Document belongs to Project)

§         TeamMember of the Project (if Document belongs to Project)

o        View ToDoList

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Executive Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Document

§         Resource of the Document

§         Manager of the Project (if Document belongs to Project)

§         Executive Manager of the Project (if Document belongs to Project)

§         Sponsor of the Project (if Document belongs to Project)

§         Stakeholder of the Project (if Document belongs to Project)

§         TeamMember of the Project (if Document belongs to Project)

o        Add ToDo

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Document

§         Manager of the Project (if Document belongs to Project)

§         Resource of the Document (who is marked as Manager)

o        Delete ToDo

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Document

§         Manager of the Project (if Document belongs to Project)

§         Resource of the Document (who is marked as Manager)

o        Modify Resources

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Document

§         Manager of the Project (if Document belongs to Project)

§         Resource of the Document (who is marked as Manager)

o        Finances (only if Document belongs to Project)

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Executive Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Document

§         Manager of the Project (if Document belongs to Project)

§         Resource of the Document (who is marked as Manager)

·         Task

o        Create

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Project

o        Update

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Task

§         Manager of the Project

§         Resource of the Task (who is marked as Manager)

o        Update configuration info

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Task

§         Manager of the Project

o        Delete

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Task

§         Manager of the Project

o        Read

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Executive Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Task

§         Resource of the Task

§         Executive Manager of the Project

§         Sponsor of the Project

§         Stakeholder of the Project

§         TeamMember of the Project

o        Add ToDo (only for not completed Tasks)

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Task

§         Manager of the Project

§         Resource of the Task (who is marked as Manager)

o        Delete ToDo

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Task

§         Manager of the Project

§         Resource of the Task (who is marked as Manager)

o        Modify Resources (for non-Milestones and non-Summary)

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Task

§         Manager of the Project

§         Resource of the Task (who is marked as Manager)

o        Finances

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Executive Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Issue

§         Manager of the Project (if Issue belongs to Project)

§         Resource of the Document (who is marked as Manager)

·         ToDo

o        Create

§         Any user (if ToDo doesn’t belong to Project)

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Project (if ToDo belongs to Project)

o        Update

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the ToDo

§         Manager of the Task (if ToDo belongs to Task)

§         Manager of the Issue (if ToDo belongs to Issue)

§         Manager of the Document (if ToDo belongs to Document)

§         Manager of the Project (if ToDo belongs to Project)

o        Delete

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the ToDo

§         Manager of the Task (if ToDo belongs to Task)

§         Manager of the Issue (if ToDo belongs to Issue)

§         Manager of the Document (if ToDo belongs to Document)

§         Manager of the Project (if ToDo belongs to Project)

o        Read

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Executive Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the ToDo

§         Resource of the ToDo

§         Manager of the Project (if ToDo belongs to Project)

§         Executive Manager of the Project (if ToDo belongs to Project)

§         Sponsor of the Project (if ToDo belongs to Project)

§         Stakeholder of the Project (if ToDo belongs to Project)

§         TeamMember of the Project (if ToDo belongs to Project)

§         Manager of the Task (if ToDo belongs to Task)

§         Manager of the Issue (if ToDo belongs to Issue)

§         Manager of the Document (if ToDo belongs to Document)

o        Finances

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Executive Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the ToDo

§         Manager of the Project (if ToDo belongs to Project)

§         Manager of the Task (if ToDo belongs to Task)

§         Manager of the Issue (if ToDo belongs to Issue)

§         Manager of the Document (if ToDo belongs to Document)

·         Issue

o        Create

§         Any user

o        Update

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Help Desk Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Issue

§         Manager of the Project (if Issue belongs to Project)

o        Delete

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Issue

§         Creator of the Issue (only in New state)

§         Manager of the Project (if Issue belongs to Project)

o        Read

§         Administartor (global secure role)

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Executive Manager (global secure role)

§         Help Desk Manager (global secure role)

§         Controller of the Issue

§         Creator of the Issue

§         Manager of the Issue

§         Resource of the Issue

§         Responsible of the Issue

§         Manager of the Project (if Issue belongs to Project)

§         Executive Manager of the Project (if Issue belongs to Project)

§         Sponsor of the Project (if Issue belongs to Project)

§         Stakeholder of the Project (if Issue belongs to Project)

§         TeamMember of the Project (if Issue belongs to Project)

o        View ToDo List

§         Administartor (global secure role)

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Executive Manager (global secure role)

§         Help Desk Manager (global secure role)

§         Controller of the Issue

§         Creator of the Issue

§         Manager of the Issue

§         Resource of the Issue

§         Responsible of the Issue

§         Manager of the Project (if Issue belongs to Project)

§         Executive Manager of the Project (if Issue belongs to Project)

§         Sponsor of the Project (if Issue belongs to Project)

§         Stakeholder of the Project (if Issue belongs to Project)

§         TeamMember of the Project (if Issue belongs to Project)

o        Add ToDo (in New, Open, ReOpen, OnCheck states)

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Help Desk Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Issue

§         Responsible of the Issue (except the OnCheck state)

§         Controller of the Issue (only in OnCheck state)

§         Manager of the Project (if Issue belongs to Project)

o        Delete ToDo (in New, Open, ReOpen, OnCheck states)

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Help Desk Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Issue

§         Responsible of the Issue (except the OnCheck state)

§         Controller of the Issue (only in OnCheck state)

§         Manager of the Project (if Issue belongs to Project)

o        Assign Responsible

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Help Desk Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Issue

§         Controller of the Issue (only in OnCheck state)

§         Manager of the Project (if Issue belongs to Project)

o        Finances (only if Issue belongs to Project)

§         Power Project Manager (global secure role)

§         Executive Manager (global secure role)

§         Manager of the Issue

§         Manager of the Project (if Issue belongs to Project)

§         Resource of the Document (who is marked as Manager)

 

 

 

 

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Спасибо, этой схемы не хватало.

Правильно ли я её понял, что реализовать разграничение прав для иерархической структуры более одного уровня не получится, например :

Генеральный директор

Руководитель департамента N

Начальник отдела A департамента N

Менеджер проектов

Менеджер проектов
Исполнитель 
Начальник  отдела B департамента N

Менеджер проектов1

....

Руководитель департамента X

Начальник отдела C департамента X

Менеджер проектов

Менеджер проектов
Исполнитель 

      .................

Чтоб Начальник Отдела А видел ВСЕ проекты своего подразделения, но не видел проекты других департаментов и отделов, так же и руководитель департамента - видел ТОЛЬКО проекты своего департамента (за исключением, где его явно вписали в проект).

Хотя сгруппировать пользователей в такую иерархию можно, но исключительно для красоты. поправьте меня, если я ошибаюсь 


 

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+1 

Кстати да!

У нас та-же проблема! очень нужная функциональность.. а ее нет :(

Преходится всем манагерам давать права проджект манагера, и ничего более, и добавлять их в проекты их отделов как заинтересованных лиц,...

изврат. т.к. если забыл это сделать то руководитель ничего не видит.

 

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К сожалению, в IBN 4.5 сделать описанную иерархическую структуру с разграничением прав нельзя.

Мы активно работаем над тем, чтобы подобное было возможно в IBN 5.0.

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Добрый день.

 

Скажите, а идея сделать иерархическую структуру с разграничением прав утеряна? Или все же работа в данном направлении ведется?

p/s/ Мы собираемся внедрять IBN, но при нашей структуре без этой доработки будет сложновато :( может есть оптимистичные прогнозы :)

 

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